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Old 03-01-2005, 05:13 PM   #1
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I would welcome a side by side comparison of several of your works next to mine if you like. Here are three you may use; As a matter of comparison, I've put mine next to William Bouguereau.
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Marvin, since you posted this image here as part of this discussion on color, I assume you welcome a critique of it?
Tim, since you posted your images here as part of this discussion on color, I assume you welcome a critique of it?

Tim. I believe that simply by posting your paintings here in this public forum, and by the above comments - not to mention the entire context of this thread - you already have "offered these up for general critique." Seriously, can anyone refrain now from comparing your three paintings to Marvin's Samantha? Or your paintings to the Bouguereau you posted? The only question is: do you want to hear what other people are thinking? Or do you only want Marvin to respond?

I'm not sure what your point is in all this, or what you're driving at...?
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Old 03-01-2005, 05:18 PM   #2
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Marvin posted his work first. Second I am willing to post one of my works for one of anyone with a earth palette side by side.
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Old 03-01-2005, 05:47 PM   #3
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Reminder to all: This is not the critique section. Only works posted under the appropriate critique category are open to be critiqued by other artists.
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Old 03-01-2005, 05:49 PM   #4
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Marvin posted his work first. Second I am willing to post one of my works for one of anyone with a earth palette side by side.
You already have.
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Old 03-01-2005, 06:01 PM   #5
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Alphonse William Bouguereau

The only I posted side by side was WB and he won't mind.

Opinions are only that. There are no perfect palettes. If there were everyone would use that palette. As I said, there are books listed here for sale that list numerous versions of great palettes. Great art can be made from 6 colors or from 36.
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Old 03-01-2005, 05:58 PM   #6
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Mihn, I have my students use my adaptation of the Reilly palette.
I know I have probably seen it, but could point me toward it one more time? Thanks Mr. M.

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Old 03-01-2005, 06:02 PM   #7
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Marvin, since you posted this image here as part of this discussion on color, I assume you welcome a critique of it?
When Marvin posted this very fine portrait of Samantha after discussion of the earth color flesh palette, I felt it provided an excellent example of what may be accomplished using this palette. And, I think, that was exactly the intention. Clearly, it was not designed to one-up anybody nor invite critique.

I am not a general practitioner of the "Paxton" palette, myself (though I've tried my hand at it & am still working on it). Be that as it may, I not only see the merit of exploring such an alternative, I also see from the works of other accomplished artists that the use of such a palette may be successful. That said, I, for one, would not deign to invite debate over the usefulness of one palette versus another except if a particular palette was plainly deficient in the face of a much more successful one. So, to pit Bouguereau's palette versus Sargent's is inviting more opinion than anything else. We can derive a person's aesthetic leanings from such a debate, but little technical difference in what would be considered "success."

To truly realize the breadth and power of any of the aforementioned artists, I advocate bearing live witness to any of their works as opposed to seeing a poor and/or manipulated reproduction on one's monitor. Only then can we see the vibrating, translucent effects of painted skin for what they truly are.

Michele - We appreciate the reminder.
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Old 03-01-2005, 06:34 PM   #8
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I am posting my painting of Samantha in the critique section.
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