Final varnish - matte or gloss

Terri Ficenec · 10-14-2004, 03:51 PM

Marvin, Allan, thank you both so much for such timely and helpful responses!

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Originally Posted by Marvin Mattelson

I'm assuming you mixed up the Gamvar solvent with the crystals first. . . .

When you mix up the slurry you need to introduce the beeswax gradually. Otherwise it may not be properly emulsified. In the final concoction there will always be tiny bits of undissolved wax in the final mix, which I would call more opalescent than opaque. White gesso is opaque.
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Yes, I mixed up the Gamvar a couple of days ago... but perhaps I rushed the slurry mix and the wax isn't sufficiently emulsified? Or maybe the whole thing just needs a couple of days to settle now that the bee's wax is mixed in? Opalescent could maybe describe what I've got, but so could murky... Certainly not so opaque as white gesso! I'll give some more time and agitation, and make sure it's warm enough -- then see what it looks like on a painting!

And Marvin, I will use glass to make the slurry in next time--Thanks!

Michele Rushworth · 10-14-2004, 08:41 PM

Terri, I encourage you to email Gambin directly with your questions. I've found Robert Gamblin to be very responsive to queries.

Michele Rushworth · 10-14-2004, 08:41 PM

Terri, I encourage you to email Gambin directly with your questions. I've found Robert Gamblin to be very responsive to queries.

Terri Ficenec · 10-14-2004, 10:37 PM

Hi Michele, thanks so much! I didn't see a 'contact us' or email link on Gamblin's web site. But, I did find this:
"...Like damar, Gamvar has a high shine. To make Gamvar less shiny, dilute with up to 50% OMS. Also painters can make a matting agent from 2 fl oz of Gamsol OMS and 1 teaspoon of Cold Wax Medium. Dissolve the wax completely in Gamsol. Add this in place of a percentage of OMS to make Gamvar more matte.

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so I'm thinking that the reason my varnish is looking so milky is that maybe I've just got way too much Bee's Wax in there. I'm going to mix up a new batch using a teaspoon and some OMS rather than 2 tablespoons, and see if that looks better. I'm afraid that with as much wax as is in this batch, my darks would look streaky.

I should've majored in chemistry, my 'studio' is starting to look like a lab!

Michele Rushworth · 10-14-2004, 11:14 PM

There is a contact e-mail on the Gamblin site, though it took me a while to find it the other day.

I found that cutting the Gamvar with OMS was just as satisfactory, at producing a more matte finish, as using the wax. However the varnish/OMS mixture is probably not as effective as protecting the surface as a varnish/wax mix would be.