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Old 02-21-2005, 02:02 AM   #1
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I just came across this thread. I think it's a very, very important subject. As to the history of vignette paintings or drawings, when and where do they appear, by whom...I am, sad to say, totally ignorant (I'm ugly!!)!!. Having read all this, I am now determined to educate myself. But I do know why they are so appealing to me. And I think Allan hit the nail on the head:

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About vignettes, it is an act of balance between the part that is finished and the materials used, the paper/canvas and pencil/paint. The vignette shows both stages, both the materials used and the illusion intented.
I think that the most interesting transition is between those two beings. Allan
It's as if the unfinished parts serve as a gentle reminder to the viewer of the simple, dumb, inert, DEAD materials that are used. And then we see a transition into this wonderful illusion being created that makes it seem that these simple, ordinary materials mysteriously come to LIFE, through the magic hand of the artist. We go back and forth, and are amazed at the skill of the artist. When everything in a painting is finished, rendered to a high degree of realism, I think that we, as the viewer, buy into the illusion - and stay there. I don't want to say there is anything wrong with this type of painting - I'm sure there are many great examples in the history of painting, where every square inch is lovingly and exquisitely rendered - and they are great paintings. But, for my money, the most exciting, powerful, and alive paintings, are those where a wonderful illusion is being created AND the surface qualites of paint on canvas are so rich in and of themselves, that something happens...(whether it's a vignette or not) - like Allan said, it's in the interplay of the two ways of seeing - that's where it's happenin.' Sargent comes to mind....

And I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who may be uneducated about art, but who would love a well-executed vignette, without knowing why.

And if you're dealing with a client whose measure of a great work of art is to what degree it looks like a photograph...

I guess after educating ourselves, we just try to pass it on, wherever there is a hearing ear.
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:11 PM   #2
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Vignette examples?

I'm resurrecting this thread in the hope that somebody will post some favorite examples of vignettes.

Specifically, I'm wondering if as a compostional matter it is important to leave something reaching the bottom of the canvas to "connect" or ground it, versus letting a head and shoulders "float" amiably in (darkened?) space.
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:15 PM   #3
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Personally, I never liked the vignette look and whenever I leave a head and shoulders portrait unfinished at the bottom I'm always compelled to "finish" it off. If you do leave a portrait vignetted I like the idea of having part of it connected to the bottom of the canvas. I guess it depends on the specific composition.
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Old 07-19-2005, 01:25 PM   #4
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I'm resurrecting this thread in the hope that somebody will post some favorite examples of vignettes.

Hi Linda,
Here are two of my favorite ones. The first is mine (sorry about the photo, I always say that I'm a painter, not a photographer!) and the second is Greene's.
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:11 PM   #5
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You know, that Daniel Greene example might just be enough to make me change my mind about vignettes. Of course, it is a devilishly handsome young model too...!
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:18 PM   #6
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Raymond Kinstler was certainly a strong advocate of the vignette. If you visit his website here: Kinstler you will see many examples.

These are a few of my favorites. Notice the last one of Tennessee Williams. Would this be a vignette? What kind of risk was this?
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:05 AM   #7
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Here are a couple more vignette examples.

The first is a drawing from the recently deceased Jean de Montebello, and the next a pastel from our own (seen much to infrequently) John de la Vega.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:03 PM   #8
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Thanks, Mike, for posting these examples. A tremendous help to me!
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Old 07-24-2005, 12:16 AM   #9
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Philip Alexius de Laszlo

Here's a master of vignettes. He was an amazing painter and deserves much more recognition than he has today.

I'm finding these at this website.

I have the book about the artist but this site has paintings by Laszlo that aren't in it.
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