How to alter frame color?

[Marina Dieul]

Hi Joan,
I worked as a gilder, an restored a lot of old frames. We had to make some patina on the restored parts of the frames, and we generally did it with acrylic. We were working with diluated acrylic,we wiped a bit with a graining brush, and we wiped it with a rag from the reliefs, and let it darker in the hollows.
You can also use oil, but as Julie pointed, it's longer to dry.
I think you can find some sites about crafts, or decoration, where they explain it in a better english than mine.
Hope this helps...

Good luck with the return of your orders!

[Michele Rushworth]

I have used oil paint on gold frames to change the color (not on real gilding though, just the faux gold stuff that JFM uses). I wanted to make a frame look a bit more red to match the painting a bit better. I would say the results were so-so. It did dull the finish of the frame considerably and I wouldn't recommend it.

The frame I did this on was a flat, contemporary style. It might work better on an ornate style of molding, so the oil paint would settle into the carved areas and leave the high parts clean and still show the original gold color. None of this would help you make a bright gold warmer though.

[Joan Breckwoldt]

Thank you Julie, Marina and Michele,

Julie thanks for explaining the way you have altered frames. JFM has been great regarding their mess-up on my last order. We'll see how the final bill comes out though. My only problem with them is they hardly ever have what I need in stock. I have to order it and then it's on 'backorder' for months. I did a search on this site for frame places and have some others to try . . .

Finding a website that would explain this type of this is a great idea Marina. I think the bottom line is I just need to experiment, on some old frames.

Michele, thank you for posting the experience you have had with changing the color of frames. This probably wouldn't even have occured to me but I went to a workshop last week and the instructor really stressed being able to alter a frame to best showcase one's artwork. That got me thinking!

I called JFM this morning and they are going to send me two other 14"x18" frames that are similar to what I ordered. So I'm hoping these new ones will work for the two portraits I have. The two 14"x18" frames that I bought over the weekend (with the bright gold finish) will go into the storage room for some later project. I will experiment on some old frames before I try to alter their color. My first two commissions are completed and I am anxious to show them to my client . . . .I just want them to be in decent frames!!!

thanks again for the replies,
Joan

[Richard Bingham]

All good suggestions. The only problem with starting out to do this is that as an initial experiment, you can't "guarantee" the results without the benefit of previous experience.

Varnishes, lacquers, clear coats in rattle-cans from the hardware store can be useful to "stop" the absorbency of a frame finished in gold leaf or dutch metal, to control the amount of "patina".

Oil paint is the perfect thing to tone a frame, that's what we're working with! Slow drying? Why? Add a siccative, and/or a rapid drying varnish like copal or damar.

[Allan Rahbek]

I have often used Shellac to darken and give a warmer glow to gold frames.

If you dare, you could "age" the frame by putting some marks on it with different tools, like steel wool and a handful of key's at first and then patinate with a dull color, before the Shellac glazing.

The best way of understanding patina is to look at a really old frame.

Allan

[Julie Deane]

I hadn't thought about shellac.

I've painted two JFM frames so far using oil paint . Both were plain gold to begin with. I added ivory black with both, plus a transparent other color of my choice to blend with the painting.

[Debra Norton]

When I know I will be altering a frame I order a corner sample in addition to the frame. That way I can experiment on the corner first.